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AoC Liga

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:36 pm
by Omega
Since I am merely a noob and have no idea of how to deal with civilization powers, plus I suck at liga, I'm just curious...

How exactly is it impossible to abuse the shit out of certain civilization powers in AoC Liga? Like say, Camo or Cloaking.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:01 pm
by LacRimoSa
well, among experts, there's the unwritten rule that those strats must not be used, and others who aren't experts doesn't matter, for the obvious reason.

Atleast so it was back in the days with ric, yuri, fly dance...

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:12 pm
by Omega
Ah, but the expert among experts (a.k.a. manni) who enlightened me made it very clear that there were no unwritten rules against these things in good games, because anyone who thinks a little bit can easily defeat the extreme gayness of France Camo Abuse.

(Also, for those not aware, I remember liga being attempted on AoC long before Ric ever started regularly hosting ligas there)

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:14 pm
by simple_faith
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Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:00 pm
by Ghost
So yeah when I played Liga on AoC there were 2 civs that everyone picked... either (A) Ottoman Empire or (B) Rebel Forces.

If you chose (A) you played the game like Mod TL and abused the shit out of expansionism.

If you chose (B) you either (1) played like a faggot that abused cloaking, (2) tried and failed miserably to do the cloaking glitch, or (3) played like a faggot that had a bunch of perma-cloaked units running around but eventually lost because the work you put into doing the glitch didn't pay off.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:48 pm
by lightnessking.
USA For market boom go!

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:51 pm
by Arntzen
As i told u light, otto own usa..

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:09 pm
by LacRimoSa
btw, usa is effective in liga for the gold/iron bonus and the air upgrade, not so much for the market.. although a market comes useful ofc. Still, gb is the better choice.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:10 pm
by lightnessking.
LacRimoSa wrote:btw, usa is effective in liga for the gold/iron bonus and the air upgrade, not so much for the market.. although a market comes useful ofc.
Market is the maina dvantage of USA, with 100 gold you can buy 300 food (at start) and since gold mining goes so fast you can actually just buy other resources with it faster then gathering (again, in the start). Later you still gather all resources, but mainly gold is what you're looking for in the beginning.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:58 pm
by LacRimoSa
im not sure how much a market cost, but If i remember right, it costs wood and stone. And I doubt u can efford it in liga at the start (not sure though). The fact that u have to gather stone and wood at the start makes u vulnerable to rushes and gives the other pocked the advantage to rule the air.

Ps: A market costs 212 wood and 425 stone. Considering this, u are inferior to anyone using gb and going air.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:43 pm
by lightnessking.
LacRimoSa wrote:im not sure how much a market cost, but If i remember right, it costs wood and stone. And I doubt u can efford it in liga at the start (not sure though). The fact that u have to gather stone and wood at the start makes u vulnerable to rushes and gives the other pocked the advantage to rule the air.

Ps: A market costs 212 wood and 425 stone. Considering this, u are inferior to anyone using gb and going air.

a market cost 212 stone and 425 wood* therefore you only need to gather 2 stone in a liga game and wood, then after that you got a fast boom.

You don't have to start gathering food if you do it right, because by then you could buy your own food (if you force feed 34 gold)

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:09 pm
by Ghost
By the time you gather the resources to build the market, build it, and buy the food to make some cits for a boom, you'd already have those cits using Otto to TC boom on forage and hunt.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:53 am
by LacRimoSa
Well, it isnt all that simple. You need First of all a tc on Gold ( 85 Wood ). Then,( or before ) you spend 425 Wood on a market. Ans after that, you still need an Airport. All in all, i doubt that you cant get air out at around f11 6, which is possible with GB. As soon as i get Home, i'll try this.

i agree with ghost, expansionism is in most cases Superior. Even in mod sh i favor a normal civilisation over one with market. Althouh i wont go as far to say market is inferior.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:55 pm
by ben55
Market is awesome in mod sh anything else it kind of blows dick.

Re: AoC Liga

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:12 am
by eeralf_
until indy i used ottoman, after i use france, in diggy and space i use rebel

most it work,

but its lucky when u find fast good animals, thats the point

liga is great, but it make many brain power, so when iam drunk, i never play Liga
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