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Is it possible to

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:58 pm
by Arntzen
Fix EE settings so you can start in "Random Epoch" and end in "Starting Epoch"? That way we could actually get a RM-SH setting and RM-DM setting that would be quite enjoyable! I'm thinking future patch for Neo EE or something.

Cause right now we have the SH players playing only Modern all day or only Middle... Just thinking outside the box! :)

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:45 am
by Captain Nemo
I tried to introduce ran-nano SH a while back but it never seemed to catch on

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:17 am
by lightnessking.
Woah, I would definitely play that.
Or random - random. Could also be fun ^^.

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:08 am
by Arntzen
Ran-nano would be different tho.. What i'm talking about it would be a same age setting specially for the SH and DM players.

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:43 am
by Omega
So you're asking for a random starting age, single-age setting?

I don't think that's possible, but I haven't fully looked into it.

I don't think anyone would play it though. Too much variability to learn, and too many ages for SH are completely and totally degenerate to the point they're more formulaic and boring than gren.

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:17 am
by lightnessking.
Omega wrote:So you're asking for a random starting age, single-age setting?

I don't think that's possible, but I haven't fully looked into it.

I don't think anyone would play it though. Too much variability to learn, and too many ages for SH are completely and totally degenerate to the point they're more formulaic and boring than gren.
I think it would be fun tho... >_>. Random SH. Could be a regular mid sh, or a pre2pre war, or imperial or anything! imo sounds fun :).

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:49 am
by Captain Nemo
Arntzen wrote:Ran-nano would be different tho.. What i'm talking about it would be a same age setting specially for the SH and DM players.
Yeah ik Im not completely retarded ;)

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:38 pm
by Ghost
I don't think it would be possible without modifying the game's core. The patches we have today are pretty much just modifying game resources. Think of it like this... the game's core is a "black box" that takes input (game resources, models, map files, etc.) and outputs what you see on your screen.

In order to start a game, we provide the game settings as part of that input. So, starting epoch and ending epoch are provided at the same time. By nature of the current random generation, it has to know the ending epoch so it doesn't randomly provide you with an age after that. Making it give you a matching random start/end age would change the entire nature of the epoch randomization. We would have to modify it to make the randomization range always 1-14/15 and to no longer take ending epoch as input, but rather set it after the starting epoch is generated. We'd also have to keep it backwards compatible with the original nature.

That component would have to be separate from the "black box" for us to be able to successfully modify it or reverse engineer it. The only other possibility is that the functionality is already there, but it is hidden (doubt this is the case).

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:23 am
by Arntzen
What about making a new game variant where teching up in age isnt available?

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:27 am
by Captain Nemo
Just make it a game rule - problem solved

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:05 am
by Black Star
Yeah, Nemo´s answer is simple but solves the problem :P
It would be like liga where you arent allowed to age, which is fairly easy to control.

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:00 am
by Arntzen
Wanted to create a new set not a rulegame..

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:40 am
by Captain Nemo
It's a big effort so u can call it a set instead of a set with rules.

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:02 am
by Arntzen
Question was if it's possible or not, considering realforce spent a lot of time making "Tournament Low" and "Deathmatch" game variants I assume this wouldn't be too much effort for him, if it's possible. I'm not gonna sitt here and defend my idea, just wanted answer on the question.

Re: Is it possible to

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:49 pm
by P-51
Don't think outside the box. Players don't like that here.