Thanks for the post man, you have a good attitude and this is exactly the kind of players that attracted me back to EE after over 7 years of not playing. I remember too, when indy SH was made up of a complex network of extremely good and strategic players. I was handed down from whom I believe was one of the fastest if not the fastest cav rusher online at the time and that was penguini_RuShEr. He rarely played anymore when I got on, and i was fortunate enough to observe is strat and get his civ. Now here I am after all these years re-learning and re-thinking the game. It's nice to know there are still oldschool players on here man. I've met a few and have got nothing but positive encouragement and advice; the very thing that keeps any game lobby alive and fun.Ghost wrote:Yeah, so was I but I never took credit for the simple build orders I use . You and Sniper both were like "oh lawd my new strat I made up ALL BY MYSELF pwns so much, it's so much better than all you noobs' strats come 1v1 me watch me pwn." Of course this would always happen not long after we got out of a 1v1 hour...
As for me, the first 3 rax start I was ever shown was given to me by Miracle, perhaps better known as True_Noob in his later days, which was for imp/gren mix. I'd give credit for a 2 rax super gren start to Nathan, who pretty much perfected it, and I observed it. The first 2 stable goon start I figured out for myself not long after that, although the first civ I used for it was given to me by MaTT. I was also shown a P2N islands build order by Stealthsly a long ass time ago.
Other than that I've never really received formal training, for any sett, and I've made probably >95% of my civs myself, which had been altered time and time again as I learned more and more over the years. A lot of great players know how to fine-tune their strategy, but everyone found their roots somewhere.
I'm not so selfish as to claim everything I know as my own findings -- I've been given tips from tons of players over the years, some of whom still play, and I'd be glad to credit them if the list weren't so lengthy. However, that's not my place in the community now; it's to pass that information on to others.
I'm not disagreeing with the fact that you were good at Indy SH, but for you to act like you just simply gained amazing skill and knowledge in the sett all on your own, was and still is complete horse shit. Don't give me that "I pwn indy sh gg no re" shit because you're talking to a guy who loved to play Indy SH so much that he thinks "grens" is a disgrace. I know for a fact that anyone who gained a great amount of skill in Indy SH, or any sett for that matter, didn't do it alone. We got to today's skill by sharing strategy with our peers, training noobs, then sharing strategy even more.
PS: yes i think grenwars is a disgrace.