Save Empire Earth

2 3 3 is the best in 1v1. when pocket tribs iron i think 3 3 3 is rather good.

2 3 4 is just stupid and serves no real purpose(especially when alot of players wait till all 3 are up b4 rushing)

@hello. i never c u rush any1 successfully. ur swords eco a couple of cits(fail). while getting ur rax's up that early would eco alot more and in most players cases b4 there towers are up.(successful)

if you want to learn real rush learn eec mid sh. In aoc you will mostly be vs some kind of slow/bad rusher or someone who simply can't defend.

well tacos rush beats my rush so listen to him 1 cit per barrack only works when no lag ._.! and if u picked civ fast o.O
then u get 5 to make first tower ^^!

actually the start is not that important better tell people what to do after f11 5^^ or how to place and mix towers and walls efficiently

This topic is about RUSH and RUSH is all about the startz. And 1 cit/rax will never win vs any decent defender/rusher.

My new build order:

Send 1 citizen to scout my opponent. If possible, this citizen will kill their citizens too.
Send 8 citizens to wood. Will eventually make a farm.
Send 1 citizen to wall.
Send 5 citizens to iron, and make a settlement.
2 Citizens make 1 barrack each, then go wall.
3 Citizens to stone.

Now, my question...

What do I do after 5 f11?
A) Drop and play again
B) Continue to watch the game from observer mode

@ taco: maybe i dont totally kill them with rush..but its enough to slow them down so i mass sw till f11 10 and kill them afterwards -.-

but believe me..for today's aoc mid its more than enough .__.

by PeLlE » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:49 pm

This topic is about RUSH and RUSH is all about the startz. And 1 cit/rax will never win vs any decent defender/rusher.

i find this lol o_o if u dont consider yourself decent pelie im sorry O.o cause thats the strat i used to 1v1 u

edit: here o.o normal build time for rax w/o build time decrease vanilla ee is 45 seconds then i tested with btd and it was about 33 seconds O.o then i tested it with 2 cits and it was about 24 seconds so 9 seconds isnt all too great unless your equally skilled o_o or hes better than u and u need those crucial seconds but since its usually on very fast those 9 seconds r only like 3.6 seconds soooo its not like 111 will "never" beat a decent defender/rusher its just...hmm o.0 no u!

p.s. 3 cits is 19 secs =o crazy fast

fang that works for u because u dont rally ur swords at start. u usually mass them for a min or 2 and then decide to go on the all out offensive. ur popping of the swords is slightly slower at the start then some1 with 3 cits to a rax. but the purpose of 3 cits to a rax is to rally straight to them. u can afford to use only 1 cit since u dont have any ground to cover with ur swords

1 cit for each barracks is acceptable for both swords and grens if you have building BTD and intend to fend off a straight rally rush, because by the time your opponent's first units get to you, you'll have your units out already.

hello wrote:@ taco: maybe i dont totally kill them with rush..but its enough to slow them down so i mass sw till f11 10 and kill them afterwards -.-

but believe me..for today's aoc mid its more than enough .__.

little side note: What do you know about past cause ur talking about todays mid? You have palyed on the old servers for 1 week ..

And since this topic is about rush 2 3 3 is best because 1 1 1 is to slow and 3 3 3/2 3 4 is a waste of cits.
1 cit each might be enough to hold/defend (maybe better than 2 3 3 cause you can egt faster towers) but you will never be able to rush like this.

lol pelie xD stop saying "never" gets on my nerves cause i know it can be done -.-'

little side note: What do you know about past cause ur talking about todays mid? You have palyed on the old servers for 1 week ..

i am not even talking bout server.. i talk about mid 9-11 months ago o.o

Pelie is talking about when u vs a good player.
Actually it's no point to discuss about when ur vs a new or/and unexperienced player as hello and fang obviously is talking about.
I posted this so newer players easyer can learn how to start with swords on Mid sh aoc. And for others to maybe pick up some tricks and inprove and to see if others agree with what im doing.
If ur planing on rushing ur enemie (properly) use the standard slut civ and 2, 3, 3 on barracks. If not, in my opinion, dont rush.

And by the way, I think its about 20 or more players who still play EE who can give u a good game in mid. + I dont mine playing with newer players in 3v3 or 4v4 games, as long as its not ONLY games with them.