Building a Computer

[Moo]

Wow cant believe i forgot to copy and paste the links to the O.C. guides oh well too late now

[peow130]

2 Sources
1. Google
2. Computer Expert (Asain Friend)
3. Friend with 3 Brothers who have built many computers so i know what im doing

Do you even know HOW to overclock?

[Moo]

2 Sources
1. Google
2. Computer Expert (Asain Friend)
3. Friend with 3 Brothers who have built many computers so i know what im doing

Do you even know HOW to overclock?

im NOT the only person building it and no but i know its in the BIOS

[USOLA]

hope u do a good job building ur computer moo !!!!

[peow130]

Moo, you're setting yourself up for failure.
Why don't you listen to advice from people who have been building computers for years?
we all agree that what you're building isnt realistic, but you do the opposite and dont listen.

[Moo]

Peow wy are you hating i CAN listen but im not following orders for one im not buying 2 Video cards second im taking nolas advice on the socket 1156 and im taking ghosts advice on a mid tower USOLA is wishing me a good job yet your saying i dont listen and its not realistic?

[peow130]

Talking about the overclocking.
You really dont need to overclock at all..
"for overclocking i just want it to be a perfect 3.0GHz Ill take those suggestions on the power supply"

The i7 is fast already, to overclock a brand new processor with no other O.C. experience is like putting a noose around your neck and standing over ice that's 1/4" thick.
You're going to fuck it up and waste money, so don't do it.
This is your first P.C., so if you REALLY want to overclock something, go find an old computer with a pentium 4 w/ hyperthreading and overclock it to 4GHZ...

[Ghost]

To be honest, Destroyer, I don't think you completely understand what overclocking is and what it does. There's truly no point in having a processor with a higher clock speed unless you're using it for workstation-like purposes, such as encoding or compressing audio/video.

Here's a quick rundown to help you better understand what it means. Processors have a "clock" speed, which is represented as the frequency of a clock cycle. A single clock cycle is the amount of time the processor spends on logic 0 and then logic 1 before it repeats the process. You probably don't know what that means, but what you probably do know is that binary code is represented with 0 and 1 (computer hardware uses only 0 and 1). How fast that clock cycle is determines how fast your processor performs an operation (such as adding two numbers).

Ok, so you may think that because that clock cycle is faster, EVERYTHING will be blazing fast. The truth is, the processor usually is not the bottleneck in your computer's hardware. In modern computers, hard disk drives and physical media devices such as CD-ROMs are the slowest things in your computer. A lot of the time, your processor is going to be idle, and whenever it's not, the processes on your computer won't be pounding your processor hard enough for you to notice a difference between a 2.4-GHz and a 3.0-GHz clock rate.

Like I said, the only time it's useful to have a high clock rate is when you're performing something like an encoding operation. The program needs to process a lot of individual frames. A video usually has about 24-30 frames per second, so for a movie that easily puts you up over 100,000 frames. The program will want to do these frames continuously, and so if your processor is continuously processing frames, you'll probably see a difference of a few minutes in the encoding time. If your job requires that you do this often, then yes you will get substantial benefit, however for the average user the only benefit to overclocking is just to say that your computer is overclocked.

Also remember that the clock can be too fast. It may make your hardware unstable (I won't go in-depth), but in most cases you will have problems with the chip overheating before you get that far. Even if you bypass that problem to an extent by using water-cooling, and then continue to push hard, then you're just asking for trouble.

I read an article (saw pictures, video, etc.) of a few guys that overclocked a Pentium II to ~4-GHz using some gel compound with properties similar to liquid nitrogen. They built a container for the computer and everything, then soaked the computer in this shit. Why? Just so they could say they overclocked a P2 to the extreme. Sure, it was kinda cool, and they showed the limits of the P2, but it served no real purpose other than wasting time and money.

[inola]

You can defiantly get more frames per second in games overclocking your cpu depending on the game and cpu. When you do overclock you have to make sure the ram and chipset can handle it.

Most gaming motherboards come with good chipset cooling
but the chipsets fans always go out at some point.(atleast on asus mobos)
If your chipset fans breaks while you have it overclocked you will burn your mobo up I know from experience.

Here is a link to tomshardware pimping out an i7 920
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ove ... 268-6.html

[Ghost]

To the casual eye you can't see more than 30 or so frames per second. You really have to focus on the picture to see it. When you're playing a game, you're concentrated on the game, not the FPS. Is it worth the effort, or more importantly the risk, just to get some extra FPS? Not in my mind.

[inola]

I know when it comes to consoles 30 fps is fine but pc games need atleast 40-50 and if your a v-sync lover like I am you need as many frames per second as your running in your monitor in hertz.

All in all video card makes the biggest difference in games, overclocking wouldn't be huge difference if your already getting 40-120 fps there is no real since in overclocking your comp for more frames because you won't see any difference in game play.

I overclock because I can not for the extra power or frames.

[peow130]

i'd never overclock a brand new cpu.
especially one i just dropped 200-900 dollars on..

[inola]

i'd never overclock a brand new cpu.
especially one i just dropped 200-900 dollars on..

I've never spent more than $300 on an cpu which is exactly what I spent on my i7 and the place I got it from is a local wholesale distributor and they do in house warranty for the first year so if I kill the cpu it's a 10 minute drive to get a new one. I have never had a desktop cpu die on me only laptop which I never overclocked.

[peow130]

I had an AMD K5 die on me once o_o.
The I7 Extreme edition is like 900 bucks.

[Moo]

Ok i wont Overclock it happy?
Mobo will be http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0323694
The CPU is 860
Ram is either
http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0317776 or
http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0317421
Power http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0295037
Hard Drive http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0315531
DVD Drive http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0308559 (Ill think about a blu ray one but aslong as i got the PS3 im ok )
Memory Card Readers since i have a lot of things that need it http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0293288
Tower is Mid but still kinda big http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0310583
Video Card http://microcenter.com/single_product_r ... id=0320474 sorry nola but im taking my friends word on EVGA Cards
And after im done with that mess this thing is next
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... =S197-2406