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plautus

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:49 pm
by Arntzen
I was told by some players that this guy uses hex civ, so I jumped into a game with him to get proof (assuming he's not stupid enough to cheat against me, this is usually a long shot). He decided to cheat anyway.
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Re: plautus

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:10 pm
by JimBach
this guy is funny, hes not even denying it when you talk with him about it and in his opinion, he does not find its cheating because he also consumes 100 points :roll: :lol:

Re: plautus

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:07 pm
by Arntzen
You whisper to plautus: hex civ is not allowed
You whisper to plautus: I will report any cheating
plautus whispers to you: what hex?
You whisper to plautus: 2 times same bonus in civilization = hex
plautus whispers to you: what bonus?
You whisper to plautus: any
You whisper to plautus: doesnt matter
plautus whispers to you: proof where?
You whisper to plautus: I can check your civ, I have save game
plautus whispers to you: lol save game doesnt show civ
plautus whispers to you: good luck trying

He denied it with me.

Re: plautus

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:29 pm
by Bogdan_xD
lmao

this game is slowly gathering cheaters :(

Re: plautus

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:02 am
by Rex
In case I happen to be in one of these 8 player games where he's in. How do I see his civ he's using to see if he was cheating or not?

Re: plautus

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:19 am
by Locodoco
Rex wrote:In case I happen to be in one of these 8 player games where he's in. How do I see his civ he's using to see if he was cheating or not?

The Host Can take Quicksave , or you can also do it with AutoSave.

You can load as him with Scen editor , or download Drexmod.

Re: plautus

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:34 am
by Jodocus
The user plautus will be banned for 1 month.

Re: plautus

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:47 pm
by Neotje
Locodoco wrote:
Rex wrote:In case I happen to be in one of these 8 player games where he's in. How do I see his civ he's using to see if he was cheating or not?

The Host Can take Quicksave , or you can also do it with AutoSave.

You can load as him with Scen editor , or download Drexmod.
I don't think you can see someone's civ with scen editor. The only thing that I know works is load the save with drexmod and make sure someone else is loaded on the person who you expect of using the hex civ (change to same color, make sure the player was not in the saved game originally). Then after it loads just check the civ and its pretty easy to figure out if there are any double occurrence.

Re: plautus

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:34 pm
by Rex
what if this isnt his civ and he was banned unfairly? It's still no proof. Anyone can hex civ, make a screenshot and upload it here blaming someone for cheating. I fought him yesterday he played legitly

Re: plautus

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:57 pm
by plautus1
It's not cheating. The developer just forgot to add the feature to use a bonus twice. And I correct that 8). What we can do is I tag my games as (fully customizable civs allowed), I already had that idea before, just didn't do it, bc I didn't expect it bothering u guys so much.
So if that's ok for u we can do it that way.
But the ban I find a bit unfair. So I ask u kindly to unban me.

Re: plautus

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:47 am
by Jodocus
plautus1 wrote:It's not cheating. The developer just forgot to add the feature to use a bonus twice. And I correct that 8). What we can do is I tag my games as (fully customizable civs allowed), I already had that idea before, just didn't do it, bc I didn't expect it bothering u guys so much.
So if that's ok for u we can do it that way.
But the ban I find a bit unfair. So I ask u kindly to unban me.
If the devs forgot something, then it is to check during civ load that no civ bonus has been applied twice by manipulating the civ files.
Hex civs are and always have been considered as cheats in EE Online, ever since the Sierra servers.
What we can do is I tag my games as (fully customizable civs allowed), I already had that idea before, just didn't do it, bc I didn't expect it bothering u guys so much.
So if that's ok for u we can do it that way.
You can do that. But it is against the rules. If someone in these games decides to report you and presents the evidence, you will get punished. I don't have the time and the will to do further research whether cheating in some particular game was consensus or not. The NeoEE TOUs are explicit about that:
3)
I will not make use of cheats. Cheating is defined as the deliberate abuse of (known) program bugs within the game, trainer tools or any memory-manipulating programs and modifications of game files in order to obtain an advantage in game or to disrupt other players in their gaming experience. I accept this definition of cheating and I am aware that cheating can lead to a permanent ban from NeoEE.
Thus, I have no reason to think that my action was unfair. You have had the chance to know the consequence of your action, that's all what matters. In doubt, you could have asked before, but you didn't.

Re: plautus

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:23 am
by Bogdan_xD
LMFAO , the guy really belives in games with cheats allowed

Re: plautus

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:23 am
by plautus1
Im totallyy surprised by the ban, I wasnt informed it was cheating, so I kept using my customized civs a couple times, believing it was allowed.
So neo consideres it as cheating? :o

Can u pls unban me, I didn't know it was considered cheating.

Re: plautus

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:05 am
by Arntzen
Terms of Use is found here: pages.php?p=lobby-tou

I told you it wasn't allowed and you just laughed at me. Not sure how many people told you this is cheating and you just continued.

Re: plautus

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:49 am
by plautus1
Please unban me